Just Curious...
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It's easy to change that was just the first sound i saw in the log i was looking at.
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[quote="Xinux"]It's easy to change that was just the first sound i saw in the log i was looking at.[/quote]
Yeah I know man, I just wanted to give people an understanding of why we hate it so much. Any new comers may think we are just being petty/silly, so a bit of background to justify the rage that they will see I thought would help give a better understanding of said rage!
Yeah I know man, I just wanted to give people an understanding of why we hate it so much. Any new comers may think we are just being petty/silly, so a bit of background to justify the rage that they will see I thought would help give a better understanding of said rage!
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Well, you know, I do laugh because it was such a stupid gimmick - like every other MMO out there has some form of. I never associated it with the downfall of VG though - Slappy was in the game for years before SOE fucked the whole thing up. I'm sorry you associate Slappy with the downfall of VG, but in my mind, there were so many other more critical factors besides Slappy that brought down our game.
Frankly, I can take or leave Slappy, I really could care less. I *DO* care about our community though, and even though I personally do not associate Slappy with the downfall of VG, I can appreciate yours. Sorry to hear that you lost friends over it.
Frankly, I can take or leave Slappy, I really could care less. I *DO* care about our community though, and even though I personally do not associate Slappy with the downfall of VG, I can appreciate yours. Sorry to hear that you lost friends over it.
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The stupid move SOE probably did with that was to force it on everyone around you, rather than let the individual be retarded in their own silo of misery. Having entire raids break out in song and dance like some bad episode of Glee would grate on my nerves as well. But the way I'm wired, I do not like anyone forcing anything on me so pretty much everything tends to bug me in one form or another.
Suffice it to say, this community spoke on this months ago so I'm pretty sure I will be converting Slappy to an immortal whipping post in New Targonor square for all to enjoy - silently. Or maybe a quest to throw him from the Cliffs of Ghelgad.
Suffice it to say, this community spoke on this months ago so I'm pretty sure I will be converting Slappy to an immortal whipping post in New Targonor square for all to enjoy - silently. Or maybe a quest to throw him from the Cliffs of Ghelgad.
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[quote="Moldew"]Well, you know, I do laugh because it was such a stupid gimmick - like every other MMO out there has a form of. I never associated it with the downfall of VG though - Slappy was in the game for years before SOE fucked the whole thing up. I'm sorry you associate Slappy with the downfall of VG, but in my mind, there were so many other more critical factors besides Slappy that brought down our game.
Frankly, I can take or leave Slappy, I really could care less. (contrary to popular belief) I *DO* care about our community though, and even though I personally do not associate Slappy with the downfall of VG, I can appreciate yours. Sorry to hear that you lost friends over it.[/quote]
A stupid gimmick that represented the first change in Vg that started snowball effect that essentially ruined our game and lead to it's sunset.
It isn't just me either mate, you will find a lot of people feel strongly against it and with good reason. Slappy was introduced with the Isle of Dawn (IoD) starting area which, as I stated in my previous post, was the beginning of the end for VG, with that update and most updates afterwards, the game progressively became easier, filled with cash shop items and changed to F2P while steadily suffering from serious performance issues, loss of developers and not to mention the itemisation mess and the removal of racial starting areas which were all tied in with IoD being introduced to make the game easier and bundle everyone into one retard proof newbie zone with OP items. It was a change that we were against as a community but one that went ahead anyway and ultimately, ended up steering our game down a path that we couldn't recover from.
Slappy is the one thing that could be brought out from that place and used to harass, mock and rub salt into the wounds of veterans who despised it's existence, so while it may be nothing for you to worry about, there are others who left the game over those changes and disagree strongly with everything that Slappy stands for, we lost entire guilds along with many friends and community members.
Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it doesn't affect many others mate, I was just trying to give a bit more detail behind the hate so newer members could get a better understanding of why so many people are so aggressively against what may seem to be a simple whistle and song.
This isn't a dig at you either man, just trying to explain my position a bit better as I probably didn't do a very good job in the last post, my coffee hadn't kicked in properly!
Frankly, I can take or leave Slappy, I really could care less. (contrary to popular belief) I *DO* care about our community though, and even though I personally do not associate Slappy with the downfall of VG, I can appreciate yours. Sorry to hear that you lost friends over it.[/quote]
A stupid gimmick that represented the first change in Vg that started snowball effect that essentially ruined our game and lead to it's sunset.
It isn't just me either mate, you will find a lot of people feel strongly against it and with good reason. Slappy was introduced with the Isle of Dawn (IoD) starting area which, as I stated in my previous post, was the beginning of the end for VG, with that update and most updates afterwards, the game progressively became easier, filled with cash shop items and changed to F2P while steadily suffering from serious performance issues, loss of developers and not to mention the itemisation mess and the removal of racial starting areas which were all tied in with IoD being introduced to make the game easier and bundle everyone into one retard proof newbie zone with OP items. It was a change that we were against as a community but one that went ahead anyway and ultimately, ended up steering our game down a path that we couldn't recover from.
Slappy is the one thing that could be brought out from that place and used to harass, mock and rub salt into the wounds of veterans who despised it's existence, so while it may be nothing for you to worry about, there are others who left the game over those changes and disagree strongly with everything that Slappy stands for, we lost entire guilds along with many friends and community members.
Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it doesn't affect many others mate, I was just trying to give a bit more detail behind the hate so newer members could get a better understanding of why so many people are so aggressively against what may seem to be a simple whistle and song.
This isn't a dig at you either man, just trying to explain my position a bit better as I probably didn't do a very good job in the last post, my coffee hadn't kicked in properly!
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[quote="John Adams"]The stupid move SOE probably did with that was to force it on everyone around you, rather than let the individual be retarded in their own silo of misery. Having entire raids break out in song and dance like some bad episode of Glee would grate on my nerves as well. But the way I'm wired, I do not like anyone forcing anything on me so pretty much everything tends to bug me in one form or another.
Suffice it to say, this community spoke on this months ago so I'm pretty sure I will be converting Slappy to an immortal whipping post in New Targonor square for all to enjoy - silently.[/quote]
We are much a like in that aspect John lol, I hated having that stupid thing forced on me too.
I could literally spend hours stabbing that post! Don't tease us! lol
Suffice it to say, this community spoke on this months ago so I'm pretty sure I will be converting Slappy to an immortal whipping post in New Targonor square for all to enjoy - silently.[/quote]
We are much a like in that aspect John lol, I hated having that stupid thing forced on me too.
I could literally spend hours stabbing that post! Don't tease us! lol
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Put it on a PvP server. Those guys can dance the hell out of each other.
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Aside from a training dummy and setting him on fire, I'm giggling just thinking of Slappy himself becoming a raid boss. But Kilsin, if you wipe to him, he may just dance. Call it motivation to succeed.
Or having him spawn as Lokked's pet on perma dance until the server is 100% complete.
Or having him spawn as Lokked's pet on perma dance until the server is 100% complete.
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I'm going to replace his sound asset with something I like, on my client.
Actually, that could be motivation to get non-devs to play more with tearing the client apart.
Actually, that could be motivation to get non-devs to play more with tearing the client apart.
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Just to back up Kilsin a bit here, when Slappy first came out I thought it was pretty funny. It was hilarious to make an entire raid start dancing for no reason (I even wiped a raid once dropping it and one of our other players attacked it, thinking it was an add. It ended up killing him and we needed him for the fight).
But really the reason that so many of us hate it was the SOD named kill mechanic. And here's how it worked. If you were doing your POTA armor grind, you needed a lot of cords. A LOT OF CORDS. You would pretty much have to do a named run every night for a couple of months to finish it (If you didn't just outright buy them). This was also during the time where you could only do a named run once a day for quest credit (To get the cords).
I think a named run was like 17 mobs? I might be misremembering, but it was a lot of mobs.
Every single time you killed one, as soon as that mob died, "Scrappy the Coolest" would pop up, play the Slappy song, and you were literally forced to dance the whole time. Even if your characters were dying of dots or adds, or roamers that came up on your group, you had to dance. You couldn't do anything else, and we had group members die to said dots, adds, and roamers. And when a group member dies and loses all their buffs, it makes the named run take that much longer.
Suffice to say, having to do the named run every single night for months was mind numbing as it is. Having to endure that stupid song/dance just made it enraging. Thankfully they did dump it near the end so we didn't have to go through that anymore, but the damage was done.
This is why so many of us hate it so much.
But really the reason that so many of us hate it was the SOD named kill mechanic. And here's how it worked. If you were doing your POTA armor grind, you needed a lot of cords. A LOT OF CORDS. You would pretty much have to do a named run every night for a couple of months to finish it (If you didn't just outright buy them). This was also during the time where you could only do a named run once a day for quest credit (To get the cords).
I think a named run was like 17 mobs? I might be misremembering, but it was a lot of mobs.
Every single time you killed one, as soon as that mob died, "Scrappy the Coolest" would pop up, play the Slappy song, and you were literally forced to dance the whole time. Even if your characters were dying of dots or adds, or roamers that came up on your group, you had to dance. You couldn't do anything else, and we had group members die to said dots, adds, and roamers. And when a group member dies and loses all their buffs, it makes the named run take that much longer.
Suffice to say, having to do the named run every single night for months was mind numbing as it is. Having to endure that stupid song/dance just made it enraging. Thankfully they did dump it near the end so we didn't have to go through that anymore, but the damage was done.
This is why so many of us hate it so much.
