Game Update Summary - December 10, 2013

Discussion in 'Game Update Notes' started by Wigin, Dec 10, 2013.

  1. dzirlion Member

    Don't you think Firepummel was either OP or not working right? Tbh guys, pressing one button, run 2 circles and press another button!!??!! is what you really think the way it should work? For me this spell is working like it should be: Charging = casting. Casting = speed slow, like all other casts. Actually I get it charged like 2/3 now on kites. What can be adjusted is the charge time so it would be possible to cast it. YEAH you need to focus on kites then!!!
    Like it was before is was absolut easy mode!
  2. Lavyndar Well-Known Member

    I don't get your easy mode argument. The only difference between the old fire pummel and kiting without it is the speed the mobs die at, and every now and then you get annoyed because you ran out of range before the second click.

    Compare that with Fireball kiting:

    Spam fireball button a few times without waiting after cast. Wait a few seconds to build up another gap. Repeat.
  3. Felis Domesticus Active Member

    Real kiting has always been something that needs both luck and skill. One mistake and someone has to mop your remains off of the floor. High risk, high reward I would say. And high fire power is useless if you cannot use it. If devs really think that spell is overpowered, then they should just remove it and give something else to replace it. Nerfing existing spell to useless state is neither cool nor respectful for paying players.

    You forget one major thing: Human imagination is infinite. Players have always managed to use content and abilities in ways which devs have not thought. Do you think that it is fair to punish players if they are better in kiting than devs expected? Also do not forget that this is not even closely the first nerf that hits sorcs. They have been hit seriously several times by nerf bat and imho at a moment do not have the firepower they are supposed to have.
  4. Takamoro Member

    Development is not an all or nothing approach.
    The spell is not useless.
    Nothing is infinite.
    This isn't a punishment.
    All classes development bows to balance. Not just sorcs.
    They have been brought in line and still remain top of the parse barring special circumstances, mob weaknesses, or contrary tactics.

    I understand you're upset about the changes that cause your style of kiting to need modification... but remember:

    Take care now.
  5. Taiel_Chaiser Member

    Wow that was really a useless post. There was nothing in there helpful in any way, shape, or form.

    Personally I do miss the ability to easily kite, even though i did it very rarely, but it is still possible with fireball and proper timing. Bottom line is i like my sorc and enjoy playing him, but fire pummel has become a very situational spell, just need to find the right situations again.
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  6. Takamoro Member

    I'm sorry you didn't find my post useful - although it was only meant for Felis Domesticus (the person quoted). I took the statements provided, answered each one without resorting to emotional inconsistencies, and then reminded the person of their own statement that should reveal a need for alteration of tactics.

    The post wasn't meant for you.
    I believe I've covered the posts intentions well enough in the first paragraph.
    That segment does nothing to help me in any way, shape or form.

    See what I did there?
  7. Felis Domesticus Active Member

    Yeah, basically you just increased your post count like you did "answering" to my post. You added some text which helped no-one and added nothing to conversation as far as I can tell.
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  8. Taiel_Chaiser Member

    Yes I noticed. Noticed that you have now made it clear that you're only concerned about the game when it directly affects you. Some of us here are trying to improve the overall game for everyone's enjoyment, not just our own.

    I am done here, and will not dignify another post of yours with a response. If anyone has any more to add about the actual conversation, I welcome your input and varying points of view.
    Isoel likes this.
  9. Takamoro Member

    @Felis - learn a new tactic in your kiting, or work around that will allow you to continue your old tactics. I was hoping I wouldn't have to resort to spelling it out for you, especially considering you mentioned the need for skill in kiting in your initial emotion-filled gripes. I don't expect you to be amicable to my harsh and usually disliked personality - but I speak the truth. The game evolves, we as players evolve.

    @Taiel_Chaiser - Don't respond. I really couldn't give two flying ladybug mounts what you think of my debating methodology. I'm pleased to hear however that you're welcoming input and varying points of view to this thread! I was just recently looking for the self appointed dictator of forum communications so I could send them a lovely fruit basket.
  10. Azraell Active Member

    Why is everyone in each others throats over fire pummel? It was bound to happen sooner or later. Can't we all just get along??
  11. Felis Domesticus Active Member

    50+ level spells are either time consuming or expensive to get, so most of us feel cheated with changes like the one that just hit Fire Pummel. Personally I would immediately get rid of it if that would mean getting back 90g I used to get it.
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  12. Shal Active Member

    unless you're a healer, 51+ spells are neither time consuming nor hard to get. the game changes, live with it and move on. if soe never refunded people for paying 10 plat to start the epic weapon collection, i don't see them giving back a ur and 10 gold. (not that i'm saying its not unfair).

    if you really want to use fire pummel, use it during shendu or sparkles.
  13. Azraell Active Member

    I wiped my bank when they first released the 55+ spells. Im not affected by this change. I guess the devs should make a post and explain the changes. That would clear up everything. Good day im at work... Be safe...
    Isoel likes this.
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  15. Sooky New Member

    Fire Pummel works fine as does Fireball and Meteor Storm. So if you like to kite..kite on...If you jealous roll a sorc.
  16. Ghostchild Active Member

    Use it as soon as the worms pop, it helps gather them all into one spot.
    Micstruth likes this.
  17. Apaelias Well-Known Member

    QJ-Staff burn is the only way to play.

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