update to players
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Re: update to players
Jakkal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:07 am Holy shit, Captain Entitlement has made their entrance.
Ofc not, But, I know who you are, We actually played together in VG. During live VG. We both really liked each other.I don't know who you are
That's Oncalupe. Oncalupe is a developer. Oncalupe puts effort into rebuilding Vanguard. Oncalupe doesn't deserve to get yelled at by children on the internet.
That's where you are wrong, the majority community has already given up all hope on this project. They have already left, because of the dev's support and insight into what's going on, as your post says, Holy shit, Captain Entitlement has made their entrance. and then That's Oncalupe. Oncalupe is a developer. Oncalupe puts effort into rebuilding Vanguard. Oncalupe doesn't deserve to get yelled at by children on the internet. Do you really think no dev should not be yelled at" Sorry you are so wrong When they are so entitled, And you are so wrong, "I'm 41 Not a child by any means, so your wrong again just throwing shit out there and hope it stands, This was my game, This was my game I called home, This game I enjoyed, So yes even if I have to be the bad guy, I will defend this games glory to what it should be, even if I have to go against people that will shit talk me into the dirty and I can't reply. I've done it all in VG even had Devs teleport me to secret locations that are not even on your list.
Who the hell are you other than some rando with an impulse control problem?
Who the hell are you other then some rando dev working on vg
Again, I knew you in-game, Even grouped with you, Have found memories of the times we have played, Have a lot of respect for what you did as a GM and even what you have done on vgoeumulator, Had many conversations with you inside vgoemulator and reported many bugs/glitches under different names.
REAL players and fan base = you, I'm guessing. Everyone else seems to be cool with our progress.but your REAL players and fan base want real answers,
Yeah, Who is that? the 300k player base you lost at sunset? but GJ you kept 100 players woohoo to you??
So it's ok with you giving ur real fan base the people who support this project with their hard earn money only to be fed bullshit and lies, I am tired
of giving you money only for the run-around answers. Give me Facts, Or ETA's Or something!
I gave you an honest answer. If you can't handle the answers you're getting, the developers are not the problem here.Stop with your lying, Stop with your BS, and Give us honest answers,
mysterious with your player base. Without us donating, our money that we work so hard for you would not be here.
k.You can choose to trash talk me all you want
Citation needed. What fucking 'real player base' are you even talking about? We're not finished rebuilding. We don't have a playerbase. We have people that come on and test or just enjoy what's put up.but VG has lost like 90% or more over the real player base who follow this game because you GM's are so entitled,
No shit you're not done rebuilding vg, that's why all your real VG players and people who know vg left, see you in another 20 years? vg might be done? What's truly sad is "REAL VG PLAYERS" See this actual progress you have made, so sad for you, You could have made something out of this game but you ruined it.
Just say it's you that is having this issue. Stop trying to make it sound like there are are large numbers of people flipping out. It's literally just you.
You made a crackpot post that literally no one else has heard about that we all believe was a fever dream of yours. Your "REAL VG PLAYERS" thing is such horseshit that no one else gave it a second thought, and we politely left you alone to ramble further about it.Its so funny that many of us "REAL" "VG" PLAYERS have shared so many of our secrets with vgoemulator that even the highest of devs didn't know about,
There's that 'we' again. You might need to see a therapist about that. We're not qualified to help you with that.yet we get the run-around,
I would rather you be honest with me/ and us and your player base of when the progress of Vg will be done.
FTFY *You're newI feel like no matter what you have done, and your new to this project most people won't care anymore,
Oncalupe is not new. You are. Funny that.
He is new to us No one knew him before a few months ago. People know familiarity, I don't know him, I am sure lots of other people don't know him. Even if people know him in Discord, 90% of the people who actually check and read the forums don't know who he is.
Oncalupe has put in a lot of the code that the Content Designers frequently use. What have you done other than ramble and rave?
I know there's one person in the player base we're starting to not give a shit about, that's for sure.Just like SOE didn't give a shit about the player base Neither do you.
Lol thats so funny because 90% of your player base feels the same about you devs. You expect the players to care about you dev? When you devs cant even answer simple questions to your fan base?
We're trying to rebuild a game that was sunset a long time ago. Holy shit, it ain't hard, dude.Tell all your people following, what do you hope to gain out of this project.
Why would you try to rebuild a game at sunset whent he game died at sunset? Thats what most of us dont understand, The game was pure trash at sunset, Your rebuilding trash, The game died at sunset, You rebuild it at sunset so it dies again, Thats why many of us are pissed out, How do you not see that.
SOE doesn't even exist anymore, sort of like all your statistics and 'royal we' you keep using.do you, If soe actually buys all your bug fixes and hard work to improve this game, what do you all stand to gain? money? fame? gms?
Suffice to say, Oncalupe told you the truth. If you can't handle that, that is not our problem. If you keep spamming the forums and attacking the devs, we will remove you. Let that be clear.
I have got no clue why you are "rebuilding VG" especially at the death of the game, Who wants to play vg as it dies? Here's a clue from SOE NO-ONE" Thats why it died in the first place. If you can't rebuild VANGUARD into the glory it should have been DONT TRY. Many of us would rather see the game die then see it rebuild into crap, its crap on top of crap which makes many of us hate it even more.
Oh just had to get this gem in as well:
Hey where is zippy? Oh yeah! he left vg to go to pantheon rise of the fallen!As I have said many of us have been following this project for 15 years,
You have amazing time travel capabilities, following it for longer than it's existed.
Funny that Oncalupe's sign up date is earlier than yours.We all know you are new here,
Literally, no one thinks that.Most people read what you say and think you are nothing more than an entitled pos dev,
Re: update to players
maa wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:04 amJakkal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:07 am Holy shit, Captain Entitlement has made their entrance.
Ofc not, But, I know who you are, We actually played together in VG. During live VG. We both really liked each other.I don't know who you are
That's Oncalupe. Oncalupe is a developer. Oncalupe puts effort into rebuilding Vanguard. Oncalupe doesn't deserve to get yelled at by children on the internet.
That's where you are wrong, the majority community has already given up all hope on this project. They have already left, because of the dev's support and insight into what's going on, as your post says, Holy shit, Captain Entitlement has made their entrance. and then That's Oncalupe. Oncalupe is a developer. Oncalupe puts effort into rebuilding Vanguard. Oncalupe doesn't deserve to get yelled at by children on the internet. Do you really think no dev should not be yelled at" Sorry you are so wrong When they are so entitled, And you are so wrong, "I'm 41 Not a child by any means, so your wrong again just throwing shit out there and hope it stands, This was my game, This was my game I called home, This game I enjoyed, So yes even if I have to be the bad guy, I will defend this games glory to what it should be, even if I have to go against people that will shit talk me into the dirty and I can't reply. I've done it all in VG even had Devs teleport me to secret locations that are not even on your list.
Who the hell are you other than some rando with an impulse control problem?
Who the hell are you other then some rando dev working on vg
Again, I knew you in-game, Even grouped with you, Have found memories of the times we have played, Have a lot of respect for what you did as a GM and even what you have done on vgoeumulator, Had many conversations with you inside vgoemulator and reported many bugs/glitches under different names.
REAL players and fan base = you, I'm guessing. Everyone else seems to be cool with our progress.but your REAL players and fan base want real answers,
Yeah, Who is that? the 300k player base you lost at sunset? but GJ you kept 100 players woohoo to you??
So it's ok with you giving ur real fan base the people who support this project with their hard earn money only to be fed bullshit and lies, I am tired
of giving you money only for the run-around answers. Give me Facts, Or ETA's Or something!
I gave you an honest answer. If you can't handle the answers you're getting, the developers are not the problem here.Stop with your lying, Stop with your BS, and Give us honest answers,
mysterious with your player base. Without us donating, our money that we work so hard for you would not be here.
k.You can choose to trash talk me all you want
Citation needed. What fucking 'real player base' are you even talking about? We're not finished rebuilding. We don't have a playerbase. We have people that come on and test or just enjoy what's put up.but VG has lost like 90% or more over the real player base who follow this game because you GM's are so entitled,
No shit you're not done rebuilding vg, that's why all your real VG players and people who know vg left, see you in another 20 years? vg might be done? What's truly sad is "REAL VG PLAYERS" See this actual progress you have made, so sad for you, You could have made something out of this game but you ruined it.
Just say it's you that is having this issue. Stop trying to make it sound like there are are large numbers of people flipping out. It's literally just you.
You made a crackpot post that literally no one else has heard about that we all believe was a fever dream of yours. Your "REAL VG PLAYERS" thing is such horseshit that no one else gave it a second thought, and we politely left you alone to ramble further about it.Its so funny that many of us "REAL" "VG" PLAYERS have shared so many of our secrets with vgoemulator that even the highest of devs didn't know about,
There's that 'we' again. You might need to see a therapist about that. We're not qualified to help you with that.yet we get the run-around,
I would rather you be honest with me/ and us and your player base of when the progress of Vg will be done.
FTFY *You're newI feel like no matter what you have done, and your new to this project most people won't care anymore,
Oncalupe is not new. You are. Funny that.
He is new to us No one knew him before a few months ago. People know familiarity, I don't know him, I am sure lots of other people don't know him. Even if people know him in Discord, 90% of the people who actually check and read the forums don't know who he is.
Oncalupe has put in a lot of the code that the Content Designers frequently use. What have you done other than ramble and rave?
I know there's one person in the player base we're starting to not give a shit about, that's for sure.Just like SOE didn't give a shit about the player base Neither do you.
Lol thats so funny because 90% of your player base feels the same about you devs. You expect the players to care about you dev? When you devs cant even answer simple questions to your fan base?
We're trying to rebuild a game that was sunset a long time ago. Holy shit, it ain't hard, dude.Tell all your people following, what do you hope to gain out of this project.
Why would you try to rebuild a game at sunset whent he game died at sunset? Thats what most of us dont understand, The game was pure trash at sunset, Your rebuilding trash, The game died at sunset, You rebuild it at sunset so it dies again, Thats why many of us are pissed out, How do you not see that.
SOE doesn't even exist anymore, sort of like all your statistics and 'royal we' you keep using.do you, If soe actually buys all your bug fixes and hard work to improve this game, what do you all stand to gain? money? fame? gms?
Suffice to say, Oncalupe told you the truth. If you can't handle that, that is not our problem. If you keep spamming the forums and attacking the devs, we will remove you. Let that be clear.
I have got no clue why you are "rebuilding VG" especially at the death of the game, Who wants to play vg as it dies? Here's a clue from SOE NO-ONE" Thats why it died in the first place. If you can't rebuild VANGUARD into the glory it should have been DONT TRY. Many of us would rather see the game die then see it rebuild into crap, its crap on top of crap which makes many of us hate it even more.
Oh just had to get this gem in as well:
Hey where is zippy? Oh yeah! he left vg to go to pantheon rise of the fallen!As I have said many of us have been following this project for 15 years,
You have amazing time travel capabilities, following it for longer than it's existed.
Funny that Oncalupe's sign up date is earlier than yours.We all know you are new here,
You really think that the vg players, the VG players who call this the best MMO ever, The wow Killer in terms that this game was supposed to be, Don't follow this? Hell many of them already left, many of them will never return. Only a few of us remain,Most people read what you say and think you are nothing more than an entitled pos dev,
Literally, no one thinks that.
Re: update to players
Well this is going to be tough. Someone doesn't know how to use the quote feature. Hard to tell where my statements end and yours begins.
And 300k players? BIG FUCKING LOL. If VG had that many people at sunset they probably wouldn't have sunset.
You can stop giving us money right now. None of that money goes to us. None of it. It all goes to the server hosting account. It is not worth it to listen to your shit.
We have given you facts. You threw a huge fit. I would be fine to never give you anymore information again. You want VG back so bad? Make your own emulator. Good luck with it.
Again you are welcome to take your imaginary 300k people and build your own emulator.
And yes, it might take us 20 years. We're doing this as a hobby in our free time to bring back a game that WE - the people that actually exist - want to see returned. We are not full time developers. We are not full time GMs. We are not being paid. You do understand this, right? You do understand that we do this for a few hours per week when we get the chance to work on it? I just want to make that clear because you seem to have trouble assimilating any information that you don't want to hear.
If he's new to you then you haven't been around much at all, in VG Live or VGO. You declare your ignorance of this game with every post you make.
I've played with literally thousands of players. Lots of people "know who I am". I am afraid that I don't remember you.Ofc not, But, I know who you are, We actually played together in VG.
Gonna stop you there because that's definitely not true.We both really liked each other.
Citation Needed.That's where you are wrong, the majority community has already given up all hope on this project.
Citation Needed.They have already left, because of the dev's support and insight into what's going on, as your post says, Holy shit, Captain Entitlement has made their entrance.
If they deserve it they should. Not from petulant children.Do you really think no dev should not be yelled at
Have you ever heard of psychological projecting? You need to look that up. You really need to look that up.Sorry you are so wrong When they are so entitled
I call it like I see it. If you are not a child physically, then guess what that leaves?"I'm 41 Not a child by any means, so your wrong again just throwing shit out there and hope it stands
Then build your own emulator.This was my game
We're all rolling our eyes behind your back.This was my game I called home, This game I enjoyed
Or some warped variation based on the unreliable nature of human memory.So yes even if I have to be the bad guy, I will defend this games glory to what it should be
You mean even if you have to be a complete and total asshole to people just trying to bring your precious game back.even if I have to go against people that will shit talk me into the dirty and I can't reply.
lol, you definitely mean the jail that devs would teleport people to for a timeout. I believe that 100%.even had Devs teleport me to secret locations that are not even on your list.
You said you knew me! Make up your mind!Who the hell are you other then some rando dev working on vg
Make up your mind!Again, I knew you in-game, Even grouped with you, Have found memories of the times we have played
So. This is where I need to inform you. I was never a GM of Vanguard Live. You do not know me. I doubt you grouped with me for much more than what we did as server events for people. And you clearly have no respect for anyone. Drop the bullshit.Have a lot of respect for what you did as a GM
You and many others.Had many conversations with you inside vgoemulator and reported many bugs/glitches under different names.
...You do understand that we are not SOE right? We didn't "lose" any players. We do not care how many people continue to play. Why? Because we're rebuilding it. Population doesn't matter to us right now.Yeah, Who is that? the 300k player base you lost at sunset? but GJ you kept 100 players woohoo to you??
And 300k players? BIG FUCKING LOL. If VG had that many people at sunset they probably wouldn't have sunset.
You are not our "real fan base". You are one individual that is flipping out for literally no reason.So it's ok with you giving ur real fan base the people who support this project with their hard earn money only to be fed bullshit and lies, I am tired of giving you money only for the run-around answers. Give me Facts, Or ETA's Or something!
You can stop giving us money right now. None of that money goes to us. None of it. It all goes to the server hosting account. It is not worth it to listen to your shit.
We have given you facts. You threw a huge fit. I would be fine to never give you anymore information again. You want VG back so bad? Make your own emulator. Good luck with it.
REAL VG PLAYERS again. lol.No shit you're not done rebuilding vg, that's why all your real VG players and people who know vg left, see you in another 20 years? vg might be done? What's truly sad is "REAL VG PLAYERS" See this actual progress you have made, so sad for you, You could have made something out of this game but you ruined it.
Again you are welcome to take your imaginary 300k people and build your own emulator.
And yes, it might take us 20 years. We're doing this as a hobby in our free time to bring back a game that WE - the people that actually exist - want to see returned. We are not full time developers. We are not full time GMs. We are not being paid. You do understand this, right? You do understand that we do this for a few hours per week when we get the chance to work on it? I just want to make that clear because you seem to have trouble assimilating any information that you don't want to hear.
This entire post exists because someone can't handle the truth.I would rather you be honest with me/ and us and your player base of when the progress of Vg will be done.
Us? Is this a 'me, myself, and I' situation?He is new to us
If he's new to you then you haven't been around much at all, in VG Live or VGO. You declare your ignorance of this game with every post you make.
There's that 'lots of people again'. You know that's a fallacy, right? Also Citation Needed.People know familiarity, I don't know him, I am sure lots of other people don't know him. Even if people know him in Discord, 90% of the people who actually check and read the forums don't know who he is.
There's that 90% again.Lol thats so funny because 90% of your player base feels the same about you devs.
I don't give a shit.You expect the players to care about you dev?
So what's this dude? Did I imagine it and my imagination somehow posted it on the forums under both of your accounts?When you devs cant even answer simple questions to your fan base?
"Most of us" "Many of us". We don't see it because you're an individually pretending to talk for a majority and no one else but you agrees with you.Why would you try to rebuild a game at sunset whent he game died at sunset? Thats what most of us dont understand, The game was pure trash at sunset, Your rebuilding trash, The game died at sunset, You rebuild it at sunset so it dies again, Thats why many of us are pissed out, How do you not see that.
Well, that's it guys. We need to stop. We can't satisfy some random asshole on the internet, we should just stop I guess.If you can't rebuild VANGUARD into the glory it should have been DONT TRY.
And what's that got to do with the price of beans in China?Hey where is zippy? Oh yeah! he left vg to go to pantheon rise of the fallen!
I'm sure they do. They don't agree with you. Like, lol, no one thought this game would be a WoW killer. They thought it would be the spiritual successor to EQ. Get your games straight.You really think that the vg players, the VG players who call this the best MMO ever, The wow Killer in terms that this game was supposed to be, Don't follow this?
Signed - The Hive Mind of some rando.Only a few of us remain,
Re: update to players
maa why don't you accept OncaLupe's answer as the truth? This is an emulator project being pieced together by volunteers. There is no roadmap or timeline because people are donating their time for free.
This is unlike some other emulator peojects where the developers got some sort of headstart or had the ability to referance a live version. Vanguard is a dead game so no one can log into live and check how things are suppose to be and the team did not 'aquire' a load of source code. The only way to make things actually work is to do it by hand and with little referance to how it was suppose to be. I don't think it's understood the actual amount of work this takes.
This is unlike some other emulator peojects where the developers got some sort of headstart or had the ability to referance a live version. Vanguard is a dead game so no one can log into live and check how things are suppose to be and the team did not 'aquire' a load of source code. The only way to make things actually work is to do it by hand and with little referance to how it was suppose to be. I don't think it's understood the actual amount of work this takes.
Re: update to players
I'm surprised that Jakkal even took the time to respond to this madness, although I did get a chuckle out of this..
Do they not understand that no one's making any money here and that it's all volunteer?
They need to be thankful that this exists AT ALL.
I wonder if this person (or "90% of the player base" lol) thinks this is some sort of crowdfunded project like Pantheon or Star Citizen?
Do they not understand that no one's making any money here and that it's all volunteer?
They need to be thankful that this exists AT ALL.
Re: update to players
I will say this, Jakkal is an outstanding person while he was a GM, no disrespect to you, we have played together we have had many conversations in-game I am sorry you don't remember me but I remember you
Re: update to players
and, Jakkal, I can promise you, that you have only seen the broken-down version of VG, Like you had told me ,. You never played at beta or at launch. so many VG sites and so many devleloprersporde·vel·op·er me to would make you blush. Now they were all delteded but I'll say this, Show me the underwater dungeon. To be fair, You and the Devs, don't know jack shit about VG. Yes VG was shit at launch, yes vg was trash when kdq came out yes vg was was whne pantheon came out, it was nothing more then a gri
Re: update to players
I will say many of us real "VG" players were so excited about this project but after so many years, and no real confirmation or no real answers to our questions, only BS replies to our questions we all left. That's why many of the people who loved this project now never log on.
People come and check the forums more than you realize, You think because you have 100 people on Discord boosting your egos, it's worth more than 10,000 or 100,000,000 players that come to your site and just straight up leave after isle of Dwan, My goodness,
Tell us this, Do you hope this project is done in 5 years? or 10 years? That's what most of your player base is mad about, You refuse to give us any information, and your only reply is we can't give out any ETAs, Do you think this game will be out in 15 years? The only reply we get is "We can't give out that information"
People come and check the forums more than you realize, You think because you have 100 people on Discord boosting your egos, it's worth more than 10,000 or 100,000,000 players that come to your site and just straight up leave after isle of Dwan, My goodness,
Tell us this, Do you hope this project is done in 5 years? or 10 years? That's what most of your player base is mad about, You refuse to give us any information, and your only reply is we can't give out any ETAs, Do you think this game will be out in 15 years? The only reply we get is "We can't give out that information"
Re: update to players
People want real answers to real questions about the game they love and the game they call home.
Re: update to players
Jakkal wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:42 am Well this is going to be tough. Someone doesn't know how to use the quote feature. Hard to tell where my statements end and yours begins.
I've played with literally thousands of players. Lots of people "know who I am". I am afraid that I don't remember you.Ofc not, But, I know who you are, We actually played together in VG.
Gonna stop you there because that's definitely not true.We both really liked each other.
I'll stop you right there, You say you don't remember me, but I remember you. During live VG you were one of the most caring people I met. Even tho you don't remember this I always consider you as one of the best gm' I ever talked to or had the pleasure of playing with
Citation Needed.That's where you are wrong, the majority community has already given up all hope on this project.
Citation Needed.They have already left, because of the dev's support and insight into what's going on, as your post says, Holy shit, Captain Entitlement has made their entrance.
If they deserve it they should. Not from petulant children.Do you really think no dev should not be yelled at
Have you ever heard of psychological projecting? You need to look that up. You really need to look that up.Sorry you are so wrong When they are so entitled
I call it like I see it. If you are not a child physically, then guess what that leaves?"I'm 41 Not a child by any means, so your wrong again just throwing shit out there and hope it stands
Then build your own emulator.This was my game
We're all rolling our eyes behind your back.This was my game I called home, This game I enjoyed
Or some warped variation based on the unreliable nature of human memory.So yes even if I have to be the bad guy, I will defend this games glory to what it should be
You mean even if you have to be a complete and total asshole to people just trying to bring your precious game back.even if I have to go against people that will shit talk me into the dirty and I can't reply.
lol, you definitely mean the jail that devs would teleport people to for a timeout. I believe that 100%.even had Devs teleport me to secret locations that are not even on your list.
You said you knew me! Make up your mind!Who the hell are you other then some rando dev working on vg
Make up your mind!Again, I knew you in-game, Even grouped with you, Have found memories of the times we have played
So. This is where I need to inform you. I was never a GM of Vanguard Live. You do not know me. I doubt you grouped with me for much more than what we did as server events for people. And you clearly have no respect for anyone. Drop the bullshit.Have a lot of respect for what you did as a GM
You and many others.Had many conversations with you inside vgoemulator and reported many bugs/glitches under different names.
...You do understand that we are not SOE right? We didn't "lose" any players. We do not care how many people continue to play. Why? Because we're rebuilding it. Population doesn't matter to us right now.Yeah, Who is that? the 300k player base you lost at sunset? but GJ you kept 100 players woohoo to you??
And 300k players? BIG FUCKING LOL. If VG had that many people at sunset they probably wouldn't have sunset.
You are not our "real fan base". You are one individual that is flipping out for literally no reason.So it's ok with you giving ur real fan base the people who support this project with their hard earn money only to be fed bullshit and lies, I am tired of giving you money only for the run-around answers. Give me Facts, Or ETA's Or something!
You can stop giving us money right now. None of that money goes to us. None of it. It all goes to the server hosting account. It is not worth it to listen to your shit.
We have given you facts. You threw a huge fit. I would be fine to never give you anymore information again. You want VG back so bad? Make your own emulator. Good luck with it.
REAL VG PLAYERS again. lol.No shit you're not done rebuilding vg, that's why all your real VG players and people who know vg left, see you in another 20 years? vg might be done? What's truly sad is "REAL VG PLAYERS" See this actual progress you have made, so sad for you, You could have made something out of this game but you ruined it.
Again you are welcome to take your imaginary 300k people and build your own emulator.
And yes, it might take us 20 years. We're doing this as a hobby in our free time to bring back a game that WE - the people that actually exist - want to see returned. We are not full time developers. We are not full time GMs. We are not being paid. You do understand this, right? You do understand that we do this for a few hours per week when we get the chance to work on it? I just want to make that clear because you seem to have trouble assimilating any information that you don't want to hear.
This entire post exists because someone can't handle the truth.I would rather you be honest with me/ and us and your player base of when the progress of Vg will be done.
Us? Is this a 'me, myself, and I' situation?He is new to us
If he's new to you then you haven't been around much at all, in VG Live or VGO. You declare your ignorance of this game with every post you make.
There's that 'lots of people again'. You know that's a fallacy, right? Also Citation Needed.People know familiarity, I don't know him, I am sure lots of other people don't know him. Even if people know him in Discord, 90% of the people who actually check and read the forums don't know who he is.
There's that 90% again.Lol thats so funny because 90% of your player base feels the same about you devs.
I don't give a shit.You expect the players to care about you dev?
So what's this dude? Did I imagine it and my imagination somehow posted it on the forums under both of your accounts?When you devs cant even answer simple questions to your fan base?
"Most of us" "Many of us". We don't see it because you're an individually pretending to talk for a majority and no one else but you agrees with you.Why would you try to rebuild a game at sunset whent he game died at sunset? Thats what most of us dont understand, The game was pure trash at sunset, Your rebuilding trash, The game died at sunset, You rebuild it at sunset so it dies again, Thats why many of us are pissed out, How do you not see that.
Well, that's it guys. We need to stop. We can't satisfy some random asshole on the internet, we should just stop I guess.If you can't rebuild VANGUARD into the glory it should have been DONT TRY.
And what's that got to do with the price of beans in China?Hey where is zippy? Oh yeah! he left vg to go to pantheon rise of the fallen!
I'm sure they do. They don't agree with you. Like, lol, no one thought this game would be a WoW killer. They thought it would be the spiritual successor to EQ. Get your games straight.You really think that the vg players, the VG players who call this the best MMO ever, The wow Killer in terms that this game was supposed to be, Don't follow this?
Signed - The Hive Mind of some rando.Only a few of us remain,