Want to make DK, looking for advice

ARCHIVED-Vritra · Jul 27, 2012

Hey, I have a Disc currently (level 37) but I am a bit of an alt-o-holic; so, I'm looking at making a DK. I figure that way I have a tank and a disc that I can use for whatever is needed. I had a few questions, I'll just post em below.
1. I wanna make a Goblin DK just for the looks. Will I have a hard time levelling thanks to poor racial stats or does the 2% evasion make it worth it? Also, if I were to reach the endgame, would he eventually be able to reach str/dex stat caps with gear?
2. I hear that DKs can block with 2 handers, is it true that the pally epic is a 2 hander with blocking? Does that just screw DKs over at the end? I would hate to level up just to have one item screw over my toon.
3. How does soloing on a DK compare with soloing on a Disc? I don't want to have to kite anything ever.
4. How does grouping feel? Do we have single target/ae/etc threat tools? I normally avoid playing tanks since managing hate is such a hassle. How does it feel in this game?
5. Do DKs have an "oh crap" button? I love being able to FD on my Disc, do DKs have anything similar?
Thanks for any and all help!

ARCHIVED-Braciaca · Jul 27, 2012

Vritra wrote:

“Hey, I have a Disc currently (level 37) but I am a bit of an alt-o-holic; so, I'm looking at making a DK. I figure that way I have a tank and a disc that I can use for whatever is needed. I had a few questions, I'll just post em below.
1. I wanna make a Goblin DK just for the looks. Will I have a hard time levelling thanks to poor racial stats or does the 2% evasion make it worth it? Also, if I were to reach the endgame, would he eventually be able to reach str/dex stat caps with gear?
I have never tried this combination myself, but I would not think you will have any real problems in levelling or most group play. I have a little goblin warrior, and he does just fine in group play. Granted, the +3 vit you get per level will be mostly wasted on a DK, but some still like a bit of INT for spell damage. In the end game, things may be different. You may be able to max strength--I just don't know for sure. Dex is not something you will be wanting to try to max anyway, but CON sure is. I couldn't recommend the goblin if end-game raiding is something you want to do, as you need all the hitpoints you can get. Orcs get +2 STR and +2 CON each level, and make a fine DK. Lesser Giants get +3 STR and +1 CON, and are very good too. One that is often overlooked is Qalithari Human as DK. They have a ten second invuln for a racial ability, and an extra invuln at end game is way beyond awesome, as DKs only get one long-cooldown invuln.
2. I hear that DKs can block with 2 handers, is it true that the pally epic is a 2 hander with blocking? Does that just screw DKs over at the end? I would hate to level up just to have one item screw over my toon.
Yes, Pallys got a two-hand epic to go along with their 1-hand and shield epics, but the blocking on that weapon has been reduced by 14%, so most use sword and board again for the end-game. Regardless, it doesn't lessen your DK in any way, and a DK is still a fine tank. We will be getting the same level of fear immunity as a Paladin next patch, and we believe more class balancing is on the way, so do not hesitate to roll a DK if it is the class you want. These may just be exciting times to be a DK!
3. How does soloing on a DK compare with soloing on a Disc? I don't want to have to kite anything ever.
I don't think there is any question that the Disc is the best non-kiting solo class in the game today, but DKs are very good too. We have most of the tools we need to solo very effectively, and we do not kite. We have limited healing from life taps, but if you get really good at playing the class, you will be surprised at some of the fights you can win all alone.
4. How does grouping feel? Do we have single target/ae/etc threat tools? I normally avoid playing tanks since managing hate is such a hassle. How does it feel in this game?
Yes, we have good tools to use in a group. As the only tank in a group, you should have no problem holding aggro as long as the group doesn't do stupid things, like nuking a mob that is on the way in and you haven't even hit yet. I find that letting Mr. Nukesalot die a few times usually solves that problem. "You pull it, you tank it" goes a long way. Our AoE threat generator (Black Wind) is very expensive on endurance and is a bit weak, but hopefully the class updates will address that soon. All group members using an /assist button goes a long way on multiple mobs, but all group members using their skills (mez, sleep, bard mez etc) goes a lot farther.
5. Do DKs have an "oh crap" button? I love being able to FD on my Disc, do DKs have anything similar?
We do not have any FD type ability, but we have many skills that can be helpful, like an invuln, stuns, fear. I don't remember what level we get all these, but one is an AoE fear that can be used to escape some situations. AoE fear, then run like crazy. But the main thing is don't panic if you get an add or even three. Scythe of Doom is way too expensive on endurance, but with a little luck, and good management of endurance and use of Ravaging Darkness, you might be surprised to find you are not in nearly as much trouble as you thought.
Thanks for any and all help!
Remember also that a DK really does not come into their own until level 18, when they get Ravaging darkness and can regen their endurance, so do not give up on the class too soon! At level 18, a DK becomes a real DK, and your entire world will change.”

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